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546. What I said was that teaching children that they will roast in Hell could under some circumstances be worse than physical abuse, in the sense that it may last longer. (also Religion & Children & Hell & Abuse) Professor Richard Dawkins, In Confidence 2010
527. It’s presumptive and abusive to label a child with the religion of its parents. (Religion & Children & Abuse) Professor Richard Dawkins v Alister McGrath, Oxford Literary Festival 2007
8,900. God was only joking after all. Tempting Abraham and testing his faith. A modern moralist cannot help but wonder how a child could ever recover from such psychological trauma. (Children & Abraham & Abuse & God & Bible & Old Testament & God's Fascism) Professor Richard Dawkins, lecture The God Delusion, Lynchburg Virginia
8,902. I don’t think it’s moral at all to lie to children. When I meet people in holy orders I feel I am meeting someone who is paid to lie to children. I don’t think that’s a moral calling or occupation to tell children that they should be terrified of Hell ... This is wicked. It’s ruined the childhood of millions of children down the generations. (Children & Abuse & Hell & Religion) Christopher Hitchens, Freedom From Religion Foundation 2007
95,893. The Vatican, and its vast network of dioceses, has in the past decade alone been forced to admit complicity in a huge racket of child rape and child torture, mainly but by no means exclusively homosexual, in which known pederasts and sadists were shielded from the law and reassigned to parishes where the picking of the innocent and defenseless were often richer. (Vatican & Catholic & Abuse & Paedophilia) Christopher Hitchens, God is Not Great p51
95,970. 'Child abuse' is really a silly and pathetic euphemism for what has been going on: we are talking about the systematic rape and torture of children, positively aided and abetted by a hierarchy which knowingly moved the grossest offenders to parishes where they would be safer. (Children & Abuse) ibid. p228
95,971. One can only shudder to think what was happening in the centuries where the church was above all criticism (Children & Abuse) ibid. p228
114,590. It’s been a year of sexual assault allegations. Harvey Weinstein checked himself into Rehab on a ranch. I think the last thing this world needs is Harvey Weinstein learning how to use a lasso. Frankie Boyle’s 2017 New World Order, BBC 2017
81,388. 1) The recent Morg donation of $100,000 for 'Abuse' is the first recorded for abuse and domestic violence, and was made in the same week as the Morg faced criticism on this Board for never having made a donation and at press conferences.
2) The Morg has no overall policy and procedure, particularly in the Bishop's handbook, for cases of abuse and domestic violence on women, men and children.
3) The Morg continues its abominable practise of lack of support for single mothers and encouraging them to abandon their babies.
4) The Morg refuses to launch an independent enquiry into the back catalogue of abuse cases, with multiple local legal cases.
5) The statistics of Utah (and elsewhere) suggest significantly that the Morg makes abuse and domestic violence worse.
6) Often, only when forced, and when men are imprisoned - remember, many domestic violence cases lead to a sad and inevitable tragedy - are man punished for Abuse and domestic violence. My thanks to the poster who raised this.
7) Empiric testimony of thousands of abuse victims far far outweighs the Penishood brethren who are forced to account.
8) The Morg fails the victims and offends any reasonable sense of a duty of care.
9) The available statistics suggest significantly that the Morg makes youth suicides worse.
10) The Morg refuses to carry out a proper program of training and education for bishops and penishood big cheeses.
11) We believe in a policy of bowing before penishood authority and the seductive quality of repentance.
12) We here on this Board believe you will all roast somewhere nasty with your magic underwear tail between your sinewy legs.
Rage against the Morg machine! Rage against the dying of the Morg integrity light! (Mormon & Abuse & Domestic Violence) esias, board post 18th May 2015 ‘Oh Rage Against the Dying of the Morg Compassionate Light’
81,391. 'The response at a press conference to the stinging allegation, and by essay on this board (The Mormon Scandal of Domestic Violence 2015) that the Morg has never made any donation ever to the causes of Abuse and Domestic Violence, a response of $100,000, is the ultimate rip-taking response to the lasting damage caused by the Morg directly to the oh so many victims.
The two say the Morg are entirely coincidental.
For your information I print below in full the essay criticism of 23rd April 2005:
'My gratitude to the poster who resurrected my original post. My apologies for the stodge of statistics, and they carried the rider that UTAH statistics were not Mormon statistics, but pending further research they at least give a loose baseline - why? - simply because UTAH has the highest percentage of Morgbots.
'I should not wish to detract from the body of research and the withering, personal revelations out there (and may be found in the library of this Board) of growing up in a dysfunctional Morg family, of verbal, physical and sexual abuse. The personal testimonies of young children abused in the office of a church official are the most harrowing and sadest posts to read.
'From my short term in domestic violence and child protection, I am well aware that the statistics are only proportionate to victim reporting, that men of course face domestic violence, that the damage done to child witnessing domestic violence is hard to quantify, that domestic violence statistics amoung self-same couples is shockingly high, that we have scant statistics for transgender, that statistics for Mormon suicide will shock again, and how to measure the sheer damage done to personality and character development by over exposure to the Morg programming?
'An appeal then to specialists in the Morg domestic violence field to publish research so that we may further accurately assess the true extent of Mormon abuse and domestic violence.
'If you are a Mormon perpetrator of domestic violence, why not consider assuaging your guilt by offering a personal essay of your abuse - be brave.'
So let's pick a right-wing source - F*x News online article of 4th March 2015 headed: Utah above national average for domestic violence homicides; victim advocates seek more resources
To save your fingers let my post you the body of the article and introduce some of the longsuffering practitioners in the purple state of Utah:
'Among those who have died in Utah at the hands of their partners or parents are 19-year-old Mackenzie [M] and 26-year-old Amanda Lee [H] as well as Kelly, Jaden and Haley [B].
'In Utah, when we look at a 10-year trend, we’re looking at almost 43 percent of our homicides are domestic violence related,” said Jennifer Oxborrow, who is a domestic violence coordinator for the Department of Human Services.
'That’s compared to a national average of about 30 percent, and Oxborrow said there are a few reasons for Utah’s high rate.